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Bill Simmons, O.C. og Friends

maí 08, 2004

Bill Simmons, sem llu jfnu a skrifa um rttir fyrir ESPN er me njan pistil dag, ar sem hann fjallar um Friends og The O.C. (nota bene, pistillinn talar um innihald sasta Friends ttarins, en g tla ekki a fjalla um hann).

g er nr alltaf sammla Bill um val hans sjnvarpsttum og ess vegna fannst mr pistillinn hugaverur. Fyrst nokkrir gir punktar um Friends, sem er a mnu mati einn ofmetnasti grnttur heimi:

People were calling “Friends” the “last great sitcom” this week, begging an obvious follow-up question: “Friends” was a great sitcom?

Really? For a TV show to be great, don’t women and men have to watch it? I don’t know any guys who watch “Friends.” (Hey, they might be out there, I just haven’t met them.) Thinking about a guy watching “Friends” always makes me think of that Seinfeld episode when George gets back with Susan, then realizes he can’t get out, and the show ends with them watching “Mad About You” together as she looks happy and he looks like he might throw up at any second.

Nkvmlega! g horfi Friends, en a er aldrei me neinum srstkum huga. Friends hefur aldrei komist nlgt ttum einsog Seinfeld, Cheers o.s.frv. a mnu liti. Samt tala allir einsog etta s besti grnttur ever. Bill Simmons talar um hversu gur tturinn var upphafi (etta voru j einu sinni helvti gir ttir).

The first sign of trouble happened at the start of Season Two, when Rachel realized that Ross was in love with her, planned on reciprocating … and he came back from China with an astonishingly average-looking new girlfriend. So Rachel spent a few episodes pining for him — which was outrageous, since she could have had anybody, but she was settling for this horse-faced doofus — and he was too dumb to notice. When he finally realized what happened, we had an old-fashioned love triangle on our hands, which Ross attempted to solve — with the help of his buddies — by making a pro-con list, which Rachel somehow stumbled across. Eventually they ended up together.

Three problems here:
1.) Nobody would ever debate between two women if one of them looks like Jennifer Aniston. Not even for a millisecond. Not even for a split-second of a millisecond.
2.) No female would ever forgive a guy for making a pro-con list that included mean comments about them. It would never happen. It would never, EVER happen.
3.) More importantly, this is a freaking sitcom! Who cares? Make me laugh!



To everyone’s eternal horror, “Friends” had evolved into a Chick Show (the dreaded cousin to the Chick Flick). Episodes revolved around Ross and Rachel’s on-again/off-again romance, or Monica dating Tom Selleck, or some B-list celebrity making a cameo. Meanwhile, Matthew Perry was losing weight at warp speed and taking all the comedy with him. Suddenly, male characters were confessing “I love you” while the studio audience went bonkers — just a room full of females shrieking in delight, like one of those Oprah episodes where Oprah gives away blenders to the entire audience

Og Simmons heldur fram

There are certain codes that guys live by. I’ve mentioned many of them in this space over the years — stuff like “If you’re sharing a bed with someone in Vegas, make sure you remain at least two feet apart at all times,” and “If your buddy’s team loses an especially tough game, you can’t call him to make fun of him under any circumstances.” But there are three codes that supercede all others. Here they are:

1.) You can’t be attracted to your buddy’s sister.
2.) You can’t be attracted to your buddy’s girlfriend.
3.) You can’t be attracted to your buddy’s ex-girlfriend if he had genuine feelings for her.

Those three codes are non-negotiable. So when Chandler fell in love with Joey’s girlfriend … I mean, that’s it. As Charles Barkley would say, first of all, they can’t be friends no mo’. Joey ain’t forgivin’ nothin’ like that. And No. 2, I can’t like Chandler no mo’.

Nkvmlega. g er svooo sammla Simmons llu essu.

Well, they lost me. I trickled back for more punishment during the Chandler-Monica thing, became repulsed as Chandler turned into a whipped, emasculated parody of himself (it’s bad enough dealing with friends like this in real life, isn’t it?) [HA HA HA HA! innsk. Einar rn], then quit cold turkey when Joey fell for Rachel. They did it again! Rachel was Ross’s girl! He had been in love with her for like 10 years! She was pregnant with his kid, for God’s sake! And they have the nerve to call the show “Friends.

g veit a einhverjir eiga eftir a hneykslast mr, en mr finnst Friends bara ekkert spes ttir. g horfi alltaf egar g var samb, en eftir a v lauk hef g aldrei veri srstaklega spenntur fyrir ttunum. Hef horft , v a er einfaldlega aldrei neitt almennilegt sjnvarpinu hr landi. egar g bj t Bandarkjunum horfi enginn af mnum vinum Friends. Hrna heima eru allir a frka t. Flk downloadar essu af internetinu og allt. Hva er gangi?

Joey og Chandler hafa ekki veri fyndnir 5 r, Ross er olandi og Monica lka. Eina almennilega vi essa tti er hversu hrikalega st Jennifer Aniston er.


Allavegana, seinni hluti pistilsins fjallar svo um the O.C., sem Simmons hrsar hstert og segir verugan arftaka Beverly Hills 90210. g nefnilega flai 90210. Maur verur a hafa kveinn hmor fyrir slkum ttum og allri vitleysunni. ess vegna er g orinn dlti forvitinn, v g hef hinga til haldi a the O.C. vri rusl. etta er sennilega rusl, en spurningin er: Er etta gott rusl? g kannski a gefa O.C. sjens? Er einhver a enn a lesa essa grein? :-)

Einar rn uppfri kl. 10:58 | 986 Or | Flokkur: Sjnvarp



Ummli (9)


Heyr, heyr, segi g, :-)

Pulla sendi inn - 08.05.04 11:25 - (Ummli #1)

J, ttir a tkka OC. etta stefnir a vera hin besta spa :-) Og mia vi sjnvarpssmekk inn ttir a fla OC :-)

Soffa sendi inn - 08.05.04 11:26 - (Ummli #2)

i eru bir ruglair

90210 islegir en Friends ekki?

:-)

:-) :-)

JBJ sendi inn - 08.05.04 13:37 - (Ummli #3)

Nei, vi erum nefnilega ekki ruglair. a viurkenna allir a 90210 var rusl, en a var yndislega skemmtilegt rusl. Friends er hinsvegar tilgerarlegt og fyndi. a heldur v enginn fram a 90210 su bestu ttir sari ra, einsog adendur Friends virast halda fram.

Kannski asnalegt a fjalla um etta sama pistlinum. Pointi er a Friends eru tbrunnir ttir, sem munu aldrei komast nlgt betri amersku grnttunum gum.

a fyndna vi 90210 var nefnilega a allir sgu a ttirnir vru rusl, en samt vissu allir nkvmlega hva var a gerast ttunum. ar liggur snilldin. ttirnir eru nefnilega vanabindandi, rtt fyrir a maur segi aftur og aftur vi sig: “Af hverju andskotanum er g a horfa essa vitleysu?”, heldur maur alltaf fram a horfa, v maur vill vita hvaa vitleysu framleiendurnir taka upp nst. :-)

Einar rn sendi inn - 08.05.04 13:48 - (Ummli #4)

Humm… er ekki sammla r varandi Friends, en reyndar er Friendbashing miki tsku nna… annig a ok me a.

OC er ekki verugur arftaki 90210 aalega vegna ess hversu ofurdramatskur hver einasti ttur er… alltaf einhver meirihttardrama, fugt vi BH ar sem drama var bara stundum. Pirrandi ttir.

Varandi a a enginn a num vinum hafi horft Friends USa held g a hafir svara v eldri bloggum (ljsmyndaminni sko) ar sem s hpur sem umgekst ti virist ekki hafa veri tpskir kanar.

Strumpakvejur :-)

Strumpurinn sendi inn - 08.05.04 19:50 - (Ummli #5)

Uhh… var binn a skrifa meira… en a virist ekki hafa meldast inn… fokkit… tji mig meira sar.

Strumpakvejur :-)

Strumpurinn sendi inn - 08.05.04 19:54 - (Ummli #6)

Hey hey hey hey hey hey, Strumpur! Ekki segja a gagnrni mn Friends s a fylgja einhverju tskufyrirbrigi! :-)

g hef ekki s miki um gagnrni essa tti hr landi. Vinir mnir kunna a hafa veri tpskir kanar, en bara svona almennt s, virtist hsklali ekki horfa Friends. Sjnvarpsherbergi dorminu mnu var allavegana alltaf fullt af nrdum horfandi wrestling fimmtudagskvldum. Einstaka stelpur horfu Friends snum herbergjum :-)

En allavegana, g er orinn forvitinn yfir O.C. tla a horfa tt vi nsta tkifri.

Einar rn sendi inn - 08.05.04 20:25 - (Ummli #7)

Humm… j vil taka a fram a egar g renni yfir fyrra kommenti mitt kemur a ruvsi t en a tti a gera, svona nstum eins og veri s a skjta ig en svo er ekki (ok… kannski sm).

g viurkenni a g er Friends adndi, ekkert grarlega mikill en samt sem ur lt g svo a Friends su hluti af “mnu” sjnvarpsefni.

En g s gallana ttunum (tja… nokkrar serur r voru bara pnlega fyndnar kflum og phoebe er skrtin hmorinn nr bara X langt, og komon: Ross hversu mikill aumingi er eiginlega hgt a vera, a komu svona rjr serur ar sem hann geri ekki anna en a vla) og held reyndar a str hluti stu ess a friends hafi veri svona lengi vinslir s s a samkeppnishft sjnvarpsefni hafi bara ekki komi fram (komon, egar Bernie Mac a vera orinn strstjarna eru menn ornir desperet).

Samt sem ur er etta svona flgd hmor eins og hann gerist einna bestur egar vel tekst til. veist nokkurn veginn a hverju gengur og ert yfirleitt sttur me itt.

En til ess a kpla aeins yfir anna ver g a minnast Seinfeld. g ver a lsa v yfir a mr finnst Seinfeld alveg strlega ofmetnir ttir… etta kemur fr mr sem er fyrrverandi forfallinn Seinfeld adandi. St 2 sndi fyrir nokkru san Seinfeld ttina aftur og fattai eftir a hafa horft nokkra a etta var ori grtlegt… alltaf smu brandaranir, Kramer skrtinn , George lser, Elaine drusla og Seinfeld var Seinfeld. etta gekk alveg upp egar vikubil var milli tta en me svona skmmu millibili hlt etta ekki vatni.

Held a str hluti vinslda ess ttar hafi veri til kominn vegna ess a upphafi fkk etta einhvern gfumannahmor stimpil (sem ekki vi, v miur) og a liti hafi veri hann sem einhvern Woody Allen sjnvarpsins (nei).

Strumpakvejur :-)

P.s. hva manni dettur eiginlega huga a skrifa egar maur vafrar um neti prft um mijar ntur. Jeremas…

Strumpurinn sendi inn - 09.05.04 02:19 - (Ummli #8)

Friends eru afreying. g horfi Friends egar g hef ekkert anna a gera. g hl sjaldan a Friends en sumir ttirnir eru fyndnir (t.d. essi egar Danny DeVito var strippari var svo fyndinn a g grenjai af hltri). eir eiga m..o. sn mment. essi yfirborskenndi hmor hfar hinsvegar ekki nema takmarka til mn. “Fyndnin” er ll augljs, ert ekki bara ltinn vita hvenr tt a hlja (vsa hr me senuna Annie Hall egar W.A. er Hollvdd) heldur arftu ekki a hugsa til a “fatt’ann”.

Amerkanar geta gert fyndna tti. Family Guy og undan eim, Simpsons eru fyndnir ttir. Fraiser hef g haft gaman a en s frekar lti hlutfall af ttunum, eir hafa alltaf veri asnalegum tma fyrir mig. Malcolm in the Middle eru oft tum mjg gir ttir. Svo eru nokkrir ttir sem hafa veri mjg fyndnir og gir en Amerkanar hafa ekki “fatta” og v hafa eir htt eftir 1-2 seru, nefni Titus sem dmi (og eftir v sem g hef heyrt, Family Guy mjg fljtlega).

stan fyrir v a g missi mig ekki yfir Friends, lt ekki a sem helgispjll a tala illa um ttina og tel ekkert srstaklega fydnari en margt anna en lklegast s a g var aldrei adandi unglingsrunum. g held a vinsldir “Vinanna” hr slandi megi a stru leyti rekja til ess a heil kynsl tk stfstri vi ttina aldursbilinu 12-16 ra og hefur a haldist san. Flk mnum aldri, 20-25 ra, ltur nnast Ross, Monicu, Chandler, Joey, Rachel og Phoebe sem heimilisvini. a hefur myndast hlfgerur kltr utan um etta.

(Sjlfur “lst g upp” me Simpsons og fyrir viki hef g horft tti gegnum unnt og ykkt. Og dlti mitt ttunum er ekki vegna ess hva Hmer er vitlaus, a hafi haldi vinsldum og lfinu ttunum gegnum tina. g horfi Simpsons fyrir ronuna, einsog sumir kaupa Playboy fyrir greinarnar.)

ttirnir hafa veri rosalega vel markassettir, a.m.k. hr heima, og hefur tekist me trlegum htti a selja flki hugmynd a etta su miklu merkilegri ttir en g, aumeltanleg afreying. etta eru formluttir einsog eir gerast bestir, einfaldir, umdeildir, vel skrifair, vel markassettir, yfirleitt vel leiknir og sast en ekki sst upphpair. kk s blindum adendum ni ttirnir a lifa af hinar skelfilegu “mi-serur” (minnir a a su 4. til 7.), sem g reyndar s hva minnst af (og ekki a stulausu). (arna m e.t.v. akka Jennifer Aniston fyrir a vera ALLTAF selebritfrttunum, eins leiinlegur karakter og Rachel er!)

Einn af helstu styrkleikunum hefur veri a upphafsformlan, vinirnir sex, hafa boi upp smilega mikla fjlbreytni. Hgt hefur veri a halda uppi allt a 3-4 mismunandi sgum hverjum tti, kk s fjlda aalpersnanna.

g grt ekki Vini, g hafi horft venjumiki sustu 2-3 serur. g ekki gnvekjandi stran hp sem drkar essa tti (et tu Strumpe!). g get haft gaman a Friends en eir mega eiga a a eirra verur minnst, hvort sem a er vegna ganna, Friends-frsins ea vegna ess hva anna samtma sjnvarpsefni vestra er miki rusl, lkt og rir bendir .

Varandi Seinfeld, rir, held g a srt a vanmeta ttina egar sr aftur. etta er einsog Star Wars og Pulp Fiction og fleiri “frumkvlar”, egar formi verur a kvenum standard, sem maur svo venst sem neytandi/horfandi, skynjar maur ekki eins srstu efnisins lkt snum tma. Pet Sounds var tmamtaplata en fyrir hlustanda ntimans er hn ekkert svo spes. Seinfeld hafi kvein hrif a sem eftir kom. g flai Seinfeld og egar g s nokkra tti endursnda St 2 fyrir u..b. 2 rum san fannst mr hann strgur. ttirnir aftur mti dluu sustu tv rin, einsog gerist oft (dmi: Practice!).

A llu essu sgu vil g a lokum mla me a flk veri sr t um Black Adder ttina. g hef s nokkra tti BBC Prime a undanfrnu og rifja upp gmul kynni. g er ekki fr v a etta su einir fyndnustu ttir sem gerir hafa veri sjnvarpi.

gst sendi inn - 11.05.04 16:38 - (Ummli #9)

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